02-04-2025 part 1: Understanding Jesus' Teachings: A Deep Dive into Faith Without Doubt
The fundamental inquiry presented in this discourse revolves around the necessity of establishing immediate prayer support within one's spiritual network, particularly during times of crisis. I assert that it is imperative for individuals to cultivate relationships with close spiritual friends or family members who can provide timely prayer assistance when faced with challenging circumstances. Acknowledging that such connections are vital, I emphasize the importance of not merely having acquaintances but rather possessing a robust support system that one can rely on in moments of need. Throughout our conversation, we explore the implications of having faith without doubt, as well as the transformative power of prayer in navigating life's adversities. Ultimately, we aim to encourage listeners to reflect on their spiritual connections and to reach out for support when necessary, reinforcing the notion that a strong community is essential for spiritual resilience.
The podcast episode serves as a compelling discourse on the significance of establishing a reliable spiritual support system within the Christian community, particularly during times of personal crisis. Dr. David Spoon articulates the necessity of having immediate access to individuals who are committed to offering prayerful support. This concept is not merely an ancillary suggestion but rather a crucial aspect of one’s spiritual well-being. Dr. Spoon implores the audience to reflect on their personal networks, questioning whether they possess readily available spiritual allies during moments of distress. He posits that such connections are indispensable for fostering resilience and navigating life's tribulations effectively.
Moreover, Dr. Spoon delves into the transformative nature of prayer, positing it as a powerful tool that can invite divine intervention in various aspects of life, including health, finances, and personal circumstances. He emphasizes that the act of prayer is not passive; rather, it is an active engagement with God that can lead to profound changes. The discourse serves as a motivational call for listeners to cultivate and maintain meaningful relationships that facilitate prayer and support, reiterating that these connections are vital for spiritual strength and growth.
In conjunction with the discussion on prayer and support, the episode also explores the interplay between faith and doubt. Dr. Spoon asserts that authentic faith must exist devoid of doubt, framing doubt as a hindrance to the efficacy of one’s spiritual endeavors. He recounts biblical narratives that illustrate the struggles between belief and doubt, encouraging listeners to confront their own uncertainties. The episode underscores the importance of pursuing a faith that stands independently of doubt, thereby allowing believers to fully realize the potential of their spiritual lives. Ultimately, the message resonates with the need for community, prayer, and unwavering faith, compelling listeners to actively seek out and nurture these vital elements in their spiritual journeys.
Takeaways:
- The importance of having immediate prayer support in times of crisis cannot be overstated.
- A close spiritual family or friends are essential for maintaining one's faith journey.
- It is critical to recognize the necessity of community in nurturing our spiritual lives.
- The act of prayer can lead to significant changes in circumstances according to Christian beliefs.
- Understanding the distinction between faith and doubt is vital for effective prayer.
- Jesus emphasized the significance of faith without doubt in the context of prayer and miracles.
Transcript
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Speaker A:He must increase.org now, the reason that I asked that question is not to discourage people from calling this show and getting prayer.
Speaker A:It's the exact opposite.
Speaker A:What I want you to do is know that you have a place where you can go.
Speaker A:You can go and have people pray for you.
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Speaker A:But I'm talking about, do you have a place to go at the weird hours that you can always have people count on people to be praying for you.
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Speaker A:Because prayer works, kingdoms change, people change, circumstances change, finances change, health changes.
Speaker A:It all changes when the kingdom of God is brought in to a situation.
Speaker A:And what is it that Jesus said, teaching us how to pray?
Speaker A:Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
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Speaker A:And we're picking this back up.
Speaker A:We taught on it last week, and we're picking it back up.
Speaker A:When the leading priests and the teachers of the religious law saw the wonderful miracles of Jesus, they were all upset.
Speaker A:Instead of being praising God, they were mad.
Speaker A:And then little children, the younger group was praising God.
Speaker A:The youth group was going, all right, God, yeah.
Speaker A:And so the Pharisees, the leading priests and the teachers of the law got mad at Jesus and said, tell them to stop.
Speaker A:That's where we're picking it back up.
Speaker A:So we'll pick it back up technically from verse 15, but we're going to focus on Jesus.
Speaker A:Response in verse 16.
Speaker A:Well, let's pick it back up to verse 14.
Speaker A:The blind and the lame came to him and he healed them there in the temple.
Speaker A:Verse 15.
Speaker A:The leading priests and the teachers of the religious law saw these wonderful miracles and heard even children in the temple shouting, praise God for the Son of David.
Speaker A:But they were indignant and asked Jesus, do you hear what these children are saying?
Speaker A:So we talked last week about these kind of legalistic people where whatever happens, it's almost like there's a bee in their bonnet or it rains on their parade.
Speaker A:No matter what happen happens, they can't be happy that God is doing something.
Speaker A:That's just a weird take and we need to stop doing that.
Speaker A:Remember James and John?
Speaker A:Hey, this guy was casting out demons in your name.
Speaker A:We told him to stop.
Speaker A:Jesus said, don't stop him.
Speaker A:It's like, that is not the issue.
Speaker A:The issue is with the Lord doing something, praise his name.
Speaker A:It's awesome that God's doing something.
Speaker A:If he's doing something different in this group, in this group, so what?
Speaker A:Who cares?
Speaker A:It's awesome.
Speaker A:God is moving.
Speaker A:And that's how we should always be thinking.
Speaker A:We should always be so grateful that the kingdom of God is advancing and that we're a part of that.
Speaker A:So Jesus has an interesting, and I would say almost mild rebuke or a reproof.
Speaker A:A rebuke is a little sharper, a reproof is a little softer.
Speaker A:Jesus says, yes, referring to the children crying out, praise God for the Son of David, which, by the way, is a statement for the Messiah.
Speaker A:And they're acknowledging the Messiah, so it's not like something's wrong there.
Speaker A:But then Jesus says this line, haven't you ever read in the Scriptures.
Speaker A:Now stop.
Speaker A:You see what, you don't see what he says he's going to finish on.
Speaker A:But even in the Greek, there's a stutter when you think, what do you mean?
Speaker A:He says, haven't you ever read in the Scriptures, stop, question mark.
Speaker A:So he's stopping there.
Speaker A:So this is Jesus way of saying, boy, for people who are acting like they know so much about God and so much about truth and so much about real principles for Israel.
Speaker A:Haven't you ever read the book?
Speaker A:That is a very unique, subtle rebuke.
Speaker A:And so he just like, haven't you guys ever read this book?
Speaker A:Now, I have actually used that in a discussion with people jokingly and not jokingly, then not jokingly.
Speaker A:It turns out they never actually have read the book.
Speaker A:That then becomes a separate problem all by itself.
Speaker A:So Jesus is like, haven't you ever read the Scriptures?
Speaker A:Then he gives them this response, and I want you to see this sequence.
Speaker A:It's quite fascinating.
Speaker A:He says, haven't you ever read the Scriptures?
Speaker A:For they say you have taught children and infants to give you praise.
Speaker A:It's like, what from Psalm 82.
Speaker A:It's like, what?
Speaker A:So what Jesus says is, this is what the psalm says, this psalm, you have taught children and infants to give you praise.
Speaker A:He's telling them there's not only is this not wrong, this is scriptural.
Speaker A:And had you read the psalms in Psalm 8, chapter 8, verse 2, you would know that.
Speaker A:That it's appropriate for children and young people to give praise unto God.
Speaker A:That's a good thing, not a bad thing.
Speaker A:So he's chiding them.
Speaker A:It's a very interesting element.
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Speaker A:I want you to.
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Speaker A:Jesus replied.
Speaker A:Yes, Jesus replied, have you, have you ever read in the scripture?
Speaker A:For they say you have taught children and infants to give you praise.
Speaker A:Verse 17.
Speaker A:Then he returned to Bethany where he stayed overnight.
Speaker A:Okay, watch.
Speaker A:Jesus didn't go.
Speaker A:Haven't you read what it says in scripture?
Speaker A:You guys are really dumb.
Speaker A:I can't believe you're Pharisees.
Speaker A:What a bunch of losers.
Speaker A:And he didn't go on and on and on and on and on and on and on telling him how terrible they were.
Speaker A:He simply spoke the truth and moved on.
Speaker A:So I want to say that so that it's kind of an important part.
Speaker A:Sometimes it's better not to get into an argument.
Speaker A:Maybe the best approach is simply to share the truth and let the truth be declared and move on.
Speaker A:Simply speaking the truth and moving on can be more effective than trying to get into an argument over it.
Speaker A:Jesus didn't even say anything after that.
Speaker A:He just quotes the psalm, moves on.
Speaker A:Bye.
Speaker A:I'm just quoting the book.
Speaker A:Doesn't matter.
Speaker A:The word doesn't return void.
Speaker A:I don't have to worry about it.
Speaker A:So sometimes speaking the truth and moving on is a better tactic and some people will never receive it regardless.
Speaker A:So Jesus quotes the scripture and moves on.
Speaker A:And he's just verifying, hey, everything that I'm talking about is aligned with what God has to say and his word.
Speaker A:It's you guys that are not in the alignment.
Speaker A:But he doesn't sit there.
Speaker A:And we have Bible billy clubs and Bible bullets.
Speaker A:You don't need to always use those that way if it's a regular back and forth, that's a completely different element.
Speaker A:But Jesus just spoke the truth.
Speaker A:Hey, here's the truth.
Speaker A:The scripture says that God has taught children and infants to give praise.
Speaker A:You should read that verse.
Speaker A:Okay, bye.
Speaker A:And what we've got to be careful on.
Speaker A:And I know, see, in America we're very competitive oriented, right?
Speaker A:That's not always bad.
Speaker A:Sometimes it's bad, but it's not always bad.
Speaker A:But the idea is you don't have to win every fight because you want to know what this is God's fight in that sense.
Speaker A:He fights the wars for us.
Speaker A:You don't have to win and say, see, I out talked that person.
Speaker A:I spoke better than they did.
Speaker A:I sounded clearer.
Speaker A:I knew what I was saying.
Speaker A:That's all pride.
Speaker A:Wouldn't you give all that up just to see the person convert.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So then we just speak the truth and let the Lord massage the truth into their heart and minds.
Speaker A:It becomes inescapable and the Lord continues to remind those people way past us.
Speaker A:So just speak the truth, stand for the kingdom of God and what is supposed to be said and don't sit there and bask in it and don't try and bash them with your Bible baton or don't try and shoot them with your Bible bullets.
Speaker A:Speak the truth in love and pray that they have a softened heart to hear it and to receive it and then move on.
Speaker A:Because the truth of the matter is you and I, we're not going to save anybody ever.
Speaker A:Only God is going to save.
Speaker A:And if we can be any part of that, well, praise the Lord, we get to be a part of that.
Speaker A:Let's get ready for our first trivia.
Speaker A:That's a very big lesson for some of you to speak the truth and move on.
Speaker A:Don't sit there and stew in it that you didn't have a better comeback.
Speaker A:Let's stop all that stuff.
Speaker A:Let the Lord take care of it.
Speaker A:He's really quite able to.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:It's amazing.
Speaker A:Here's your first trivia question.
Speaker A:In Daniel 4, who dreamed of a tree that reached into heaven?
Speaker A:Daniel 4.
Speaker A:4, was that Obadiah, Joshua, Nebuchadnezzar, or Matthew?
Speaker A:Who dreamed of a tree that reached into heaven?
Speaker A:In Daniel 4, Daniel 4.
Speaker A:4 and Daniel chapter 4, 10, 11 and 12, who dreamed that dream?
Speaker A:Was it Obadiah, Joshua, Nebuchadnezzar, or Matthew?
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Speaker A:In Daniel 4, who dreamed of a tree that reached into heaven?
Speaker A:Was it Obadiah, Joshua, Nebuchadnezzar, or Matthew?
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Speaker A:Daniel chapter four.
Speaker A:Actually it's chapter four, verse four and it's also chapter four, verse 10 through 12.
Speaker A:So you have that opportunity.
Speaker A:Who dreamed of a tree that reached into heaven?
Speaker A:Obadiah, Joshua, Nebuchadnezzar, or Matthew.
Speaker A:If you think you know you can reach out to us, we told you.
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Speaker A:We're in Matthew chapter 2:21 and we're looking at verse 18.
Speaker A:In the morning.
Speaker A:In the morning, as Jesus was returning to Jerusalem, he was hungry and he noticed a fig tree beside the road.
Speaker A:He went over to see if there was any figs on it, but there were only leaves.
Speaker A:Then he said to it, may you never bear fruit again.
Speaker A:And immediately the fig tree withered up.
Speaker A:The disciples were amazed and as they saw this, they asked, how did the fig tree wither so quickly?
Speaker A:Jesus said to them, I assure you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you can do things like this and much more.
Speaker A:Yazza, who doesn't love this?
Speaker A:So in the morning, Jesus is cruising along.
Speaker A:He's taking his morning stroll with the disciples with all the boys.
Speaker A:They're all heading over and what happens?
Speaker A:He comes across a fig tree.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker A:So let's talk about that in verse 18.
Speaker A:We're attached to this part where Jesus, he curses this fig tree.
Speaker A:Now, believe it or not, I'm going to tell you this.
Speaker A:I bet some of you already know this, but this tells you how weird things can get.
Speaker A:There are eight different points of view on this event, right?
Speaker A:One of those perspectives is that the fig tree represents Israel.
Speaker A:Is that likely?
Speaker A:Could be.
Speaker A:But it's more than that.
Speaker A:It's fact that the scripture says this.
Speaker A:He was hungry.
Speaker A:And so we always look for something in there.
Speaker A:And it's like I'm just going to say this real quickly or he could have Just been hungry.
Speaker A:Now, I know it's amazing to think that Jesus could be hungry, but maybe he was just hungry.
Speaker A:I'm just saying he could have been.
Speaker A:And so maybe he just simply wanted something to eat.
Speaker A:And as he's hungry, he noticed the fig tree.
Speaker A:He went to see if there was anything on it, but there were only leaves.
Speaker A:You know what that means?
Speaker A:It means there was no fruit.
Speaker A:You really want to use a nice practical application on this teaching that has to do with the reality that many Christians have a lot of leaves but not very much fruit.
Speaker A:If the leaves represent appearances, how pretty something looks versus how substantial it is while fruit.
Speaker A:So if the leaves represent how it looks, the fruit represents what it actually produces.
Speaker A:Is that possible?
Speaker A:That was Jesus talking about, sure.
Speaker A:Could it be Israel?
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker A:Could it be Jesus was hungry and he wanted to eat?
Speaker A:Sure, because that's exactly what it says.
Speaker A:So we just leave that there and not get too weird on that.
Speaker A:Here's what we know.
Speaker A:Jesus was hungry, the tree wasn't producing fruit.
Speaker A:Jesus wasn't happy with it.
Speaker A:Bye bye.
Speaker A:Now you might be thinking, gosh, I hope that doesn't apply to me.
Speaker A:You understand, right, that Jesus didn't die for the fig tree like he died for you, right?
Speaker A:I'm making sure you make that distinction.
Speaker A:That a fig tree, though in Europe they might have lawyers because trees have lawyers in Europe.
Speaker A:Don't ask.
Speaker A:Nobody can figure it out.
Speaker A:The truth of the matter is that it's a fig tree and Jesus was there to save and not to just curse people out.
Speaker A:So let's not get too far away from that.
Speaker A:But I do want to focus on, and we'll come back to this next week because of how absolutely, absolutely phenomenal it is Jesus, when he curses the fig tree and the disciples are all amazed he makes this one statement and it is one that gets by us so often.
Speaker A:And I'm just not willing to skip over it.
Speaker A:Jesus said, when they said, how did you get that done so fast?
Speaker A:How does that transpire?
Speaker A:He said, I assure you.
Speaker A:And he says two things that are connected but are one of the most important things of all.
Speaker A:He says, if you have faith and don't doubt, and that's the lesson, you and I can pray and bring it to the Lord and have faith.
Speaker A:And right, we should.
Speaker A:We should be operating in that faith.
Speaker A:But Jesus tries to make it clear, when you have faith, you can't have it connected to doubt because the doubt, doubt reduces the effectiveness of the faith.
Speaker A:It's like faith is worth three points and doubt is minus three points.
Speaker A:And if you're operating with that plus three points and minus three points, you got nada.
Speaker A:You have zero.
Speaker A:We need to understand that when we operate with faith, we cannot allow the doubt to stand next to it.
Speaker A:In fact, that's one of the great reasons why we'll often quote that gentleman whose son was having the difficulty and he was being tormented by the spirit.
Speaker A:He says, I believe, help thou my unbelief.
Speaker A:He knew he had faith, but he also knew he had doubt.
Speaker A:If you have doubt, you should do.
Speaker A:And I should do what that guy did.
Speaker A:He asked Jesus to help him.
Speaker A:I believe, help my unbelief.
Speaker A:It's getting the best of me, Lord.
Speaker A:I need to do better.
Speaker A:I need to believe more purely and not connect it to my faith.
Speaker A:I need to separate doubt and faith and let the faith stand alone because that's what pleases God.
Speaker A:And Jesus says, look, if you have faith and don't doubt, you can do.
Speaker A:You can do things like this and more.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But you got to get rid of the doubt and you have to really believe, not kinda believe.
Speaker A:Okay, who was it that had the dream of the tree that reached into the heaven?
Speaker A:That was Nebuchadnezzar.
Speaker A:That's who it was.
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Speaker A:So there's teaching in the church.
Speaker A:Most of you, if you're familiar with the shepherding movement, just so you can know, Bob Mumford and Derek Prince, people who were influential in the church, came up with this idea of the shepherding movement, that the shepherd is responsible for the people.
Speaker A:And because the shepherd is responsible for the people, the shepherd should have authority to help them make decisions in life.
Speaker A:Initially, the idea is good in the sense of making good decisions, moral decisions, so on and so forth.
Speaker A:But it quickly grew into abuse where people were making decisions about relationships, jobs, locations of living, how much they were giving, the whole nine yards, okay?
Speaker A:Pastor Ken was a huge fan of the shepherding movement.
Speaker A:He just didn't know it was called the shepherding movement.
Speaker A:He just liked the control.
Speaker A:So he would say to us, touch not my anointed.
Speaker A:Do my prophets no harm.
Speaker A:You can't speak against me.
Speaker A:It's okay that you took down the rabbi, but you can't do that to me.
Speaker A:Let me give you.
Speaker A:I'm going to read you a scripture.
Speaker A:I'M going to show you where the error is so that everybody can understand how deep the fallacy goes.
Speaker A:This comes out of Psalm 105, and this is verse eight.
Speaker A:And I'm going to you something that a lot of people won't show you because they don't understand the word context.
Speaker A:Verse 8 in Psalm 105.
Speaker A:He has remembered his covenant forever.
Speaker A:The word which he commanded to a thousand generations, the covenant which he made with Abraham, his oath to Isaac, then confirmed it to Jacob, to Israel, to who?
Speaker A:To Israel.
Speaker A:It is an everlasting covenant, saying to you, I will give the land of Canaan and the portion of your inheritance.
Speaker A:When they were only a few in people, very few and strangers in it, and they wandered from nation to nation, from one kingdom to another people.
Speaker A:He allowed no one to oppress them, and he rebuked kings for their sakes, saying, do not touch my anointed one and do my prophets no harm.
Speaker A:In context.
Speaker A:Touch not my anointed ones and do my prophet no harm.
Speaker A:Is all the people of Israel.
Speaker A:And God was telling all these different Gentile nations, don't touch my people.
Speaker A:Don't touch my people.
Speaker A:You touch my people, you're going to be in trouble.
Speaker A:Bad, bad, bad.
Speaker A:Don't do that.
Speaker A:I'll blow you up.
Speaker A:This is like that kind of thing.
Speaker A:And what the pastors have done is they've taken that verse out of context, even though it refers to the people of God.
Speaker A:And you think, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker A:Are you telling me it's not the leaders?
Speaker A:Touch not my anointed one.
Speaker A:Christ means anointed one.
Speaker A:Christians is anointed ones.
Speaker A:Specifically, that passage is about people who don't believe in God touching God's people.
Speaker A:That's exactly what it's got nothing to do with.
Speaker A:A pastor by himself.
