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22nd May 2025

05-22-25 part 1: Crowns, Creatures, and the King Worship at the Center of Everything

1. Revelation Revealed—And Contested

Dr. Spoon dives into Revelation 4 with a mix of awe and scholarly honesty. He highlights how the image of the 24 elders sitting around God’s throne has sparked no fewer than nine distinct theological interpretations. Are they the raptured church? The 12 apostles plus the 12 tribes of Israel? Priestly representatives from the Old Testament? Even angelic beings? Dr. Spoon makes it clear—no one knows with certainty, and claiming only one correct view misses the point. He emphasizes that Revelation offers a blessing to its readers not because we master all its symbols, but because its ultimate message is simple: Jesus wins.

2. The Robes, the Crowns, and the Righteousness

Instead of getting stuck in the theological weeds, Dr. Spoon encourages listeners to observe what is unmistakable: these 24 elders are clothed in white robes and wear golden crowns. White robes symbolize righteousness—righteousness not earned, but given by grace. Dr. Spoon likens it to that soft, plush robe you find at a resort—it’s not yours by merit, but by invitation. The golden crowns, he notes, symbolize reward and authority. And yes, Scripture promises that believers who love Christ’s return will receive such crowns. So whether those elders are apostles, patriarchs, priests, or saints—it could be you. That’s the bigger takeaway.

3. Don’t Miss the Main Focus

As lightning, thunder, and voices proceed from God’s throne, Dr. Spoon paints a vivid picture: if creation trembles at God’s voice here on earth, how much more at His cosmic throne? He emphasizes that the throne room scene is not primarily about decoding creatures or numbers, but about experiencing the majesty of Jesus Christ. The continual thread in Revelation is not symbolic interpretation—it’s worship. It’s surrender. It’s Christ having preeminence (Colossians 1:18). Whatever our interpretation, the center is clear: Jesus is King, and everything bows to Him.

4. Seeing It All, Knowing It All, Caring Through It All

Dr. Spoon previews the next section with excitement: four living creatures full of eyes—front and back. He jokes, “If you were in the Visine business, you’d be thrilled,” but quickly turns the humor into truth. Those eyes aren’t random—they symbolize awareness. God sees everything. Not just globally, but personally. Every moment of your life is seen, known, and carried by the God who sits on the throne. Dr. Spoon then transitions into Acts 8 with the Ethiopian eunuch, celebrating that salvation—not symbolism—is the root of rejoicing. Even in pain, there’s joy because Jesus saves, Jesus reigns, and eternity is real.

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David Spoon was born and raised in a Jewish home in Detroit, Michigan. He attended a private Hebrew school called Hillel Hebrew Academy. David was bar mitzvah-ed at the age of thirteen. Not long after, he was involved in drug abuse and trafficking. After hearing the Gospel for the first time at age seventeen, David accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. A few months later, David had a dramatic experience with God. Immediately set free from years of excessive drug use, he committed himself to ministry and to furthering the Kingdom of God.

He attended Arizona Bible College, Northern Arizona University, and Life Pacific College, graduating summa-cum-laude in their Ministry and Leadership program. He also graduated with honors from Regent University with a master’s degree in Theological Studies and earned his Doctor of Ministry degree in Strategic Christian Ministry at Liberty University.

He is one of a few individuals holding ministerial ordinations from three separate denominations: Heritage Free Baptist Organization, 1981; Independent Pentecostal Ministers Association, 1985; and Vineyard Valley Association, 1988. He was also the Chaplain for the Flagstaff Police Department. In addition, David was the senior pastor of Vineyard Christian Fellowship of Flagstaff.

In addition, David started and co-hosted two different live Christian call-in radio talk shows. He hosted the very popular radio show “The David Spoon Experience” on KPRZ 1210 and a show called “To Know Him,” which aired on 88.9 on the F.M. dial-in Temecula, California at 1:00 p.m., Monday through Fridays. He was also the Director of Local Ministry for Salem Media Group in San Diego, California.

David is married to his best friend, Noelle. He has three children and seven grandchildren, plus their two dogs named Levi and Bert. On March 18th, 2019, he started “The David Spoon Experience” in Texas and is growing with his audience of awesome believers and non-believers alike.

He is the President of He Must Increase Ministry, a 501c3 ministry, and is hosting (again) the live daily radio show “The David Spoon Experience” with DJR Broadcasting in KAAM, on the 770 A.M. radio dial. The show is also on various apps and the Internet.

David is a Jewish-Christian, Bapti-Costal, Cal-Minian, Manifold Millennialist.

Just ask him.